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Season Three Playoffs – First Round Day Two Update

Season Three Playoffs – First Round Day Two Update

We had no doubt that the playoffs would be an intense competition from the outset but we didn’t realize just how intense it would be.

Teams are working so hard that every point counts. As almost every team found out yesterday just because you are in the lead – even if the lead looks comfortable – that is not enough to guarantee that you will make it through to the quarter finals.

Yesterday we saw that at some points a team was up against its opponent and then at other times it was down.

Different activity patterns and times of players on teams can have a huge impact on that team’s overall performance.

This is proof, if proof was still needed, that every team player has a vital role to play and that every individual player can make a real difference.

So now at 7.47am Eastern on the final day of the first round, things look like this:

First placed SurfAholics Alpha is comfortably in the lead over 16th placed Beginners and Winners. However the totals for the Alphas are relatively low compared with many other teams. I suspect they are pacing themselves at this point. This opens up the possibility of the bottom seeded team pulling out all the stops and trying to sprint to the finish. If this happens it would be very spectacular indeed.

Fahrenheit (8) are behind by 5 billion points to WealthBuilders (9) while Phoenix (5) are about 30 billion points behind Lucky 13 Too (12). So, as of now, the two lower placed teams are in the lead. The competition between these four teams is intense, absolutely intense.

However none of the above are the headline story of the first round…if you have been following the first round live blog then you will know that this honor goes to Renegades (4) and Living Wealthy (13) who have earned 140 billion XP between them in this first round alone.

Renegades are winning by about 20 billion points right now but Living Wealthy has a very good chance of winning this battle – remember that if they do then Living Wealthy will qualify for Justin’s $500 bonus for wiping out a top four team in the first round.

In To Win (6) is leading Easy Team (11) but these two teams have been up and down during the first day so anything could happen here.

Lucky 13 (3) are playing Success Seekers (14) and seem to be adopting the same technique as the Alphas. Lucky 13 is in the lead, not by a huge amount as I suspect this team plans to do enough to win while conserving energy for the later rounds of the contest.

What a story it would be if both the Alphas and Lucky 13 misjudged things and were both knocked out in the first round by much lower ranked teams.

Uber Surfers (7) are leading Dream Team (10) – both teams have made significant advances during the first day of this contest so anything could happen here.

Finally CSN (2) clearly does not believe in the minimalist approach to this opening league. Their favored strategy seems to be to start hard and fast in a bid to totally demoralize their opposition. CSN is currently leading Ultimate Surf Warriors (15) by about 29 billion points.

Not a bad start at all I would say. Let’s see what the rest of today brings.

28 responses to “Season Three Playoffs – First Round Day Two Update”

  1. Sig says:

    Very interesting to watch this, and those BIG BIG number of XP!

    Looking forward to see what has change after a Quick little nap..


    PS! If any Feel they can handle the pressure and do a different on a small numbered team..(we did choose to go in like a team of 12), contact us, if you dare fight till the last TOOT! πŸ˜€

  2. Suzanne says:

    Is this competition being monitored for fairness…

  3. Linda says:

    Honestly I dont feel there is completely fair play when someone from timtech support is participating in the league as they have insider info and secrets and easy access to xp points giving them a major boost. It should be earned by hard work and hours surfing just like the rest of us. The Timtech support members should be put in their own team page to separate them from the rest of the CTP members.

    • Jon Olson says:

      Are you referring to Tom Wacker and Lucky 13 Too? He spent his own money and got XP like anyone else….Why on God’s green earth would we cheat our own contests????

    • Janelle says:

      This irritates me.

      If you’re going to accuse someone of cheating, just say it.

      We have no secrets. Jon gets on cam every single day (thought I don’t see you there often) and lays it all out. All the different ways to get and earn XP. Some of it involves activity. Some of it involves spending money.

      Would you be so quick to say you didn’t like it if you had a TimTech member on your team?

      Do you want Tom’s PayPal receipt for his XP yesterday and my surf activity screen shot? Will that make you stop assuming that we’re rigging a competition to win? I have news – EVEN IF ONE OF OUR TEAMS WIN WE DO NOT SEE ANY MONEY!

      And please stop and think about what you’re saying…it serves zero purpose to us to rig a competition or cheat. We flourish when you flourish. This is a business.

  4. Definitely a wild ride so far!

  5. Aaron Green says:

    It’s been a up and down game and a Very Long One too . back to finding XP.

  6. Howard Fullmer says:

    All I want to say is I have its the final count down song stuck in my head and I am hoping to get it stuck in everyone elses head also

  7. Rob P. says:

    Oh yes play it the way it is setup. Amazing everyone questions Tom but not me yes we conspired as a team and we went to town. Tom did nothing wrong except look after his personal affairs in what he does online. The lesson there is invest in your business as that is all Tom did. If he has a job at Timtech admire him for not trying to take advantage of the system he works in he uses his hard earned dollars to conduct his business.
    Quick to point a finger a lot of you but when I check up on some of you I see you support a person and their site that was just recently caught out cheating the system. Get your morals right first before trying to drag people down who did nothing wrong but do something for their team.
    Absolutely disgusted that anyone would try and drag Tom down and make accusations, goes to show you havn’t bothered to get to know him at all.

  8. I wish this was Facebook because I want to ‘like’ Janelle & Rob’s posts so hard! lol

    TT employees have no ‘insider secrets’. What is this… Wall Street? I’ve heard Jon say for at least a month now, since List Viral launched, that every dollar spent was worth 1 million XP.

    All XP earned is fair. Don’t want to work for XP? Buy it. Don’t want to earn credits? Buy them. Don’t want to surf? Buy upgrades. Dollars work in this industry (and in life in case someone missed the Memo) to achieve goals.

    Reach down… feel that? It’s a wallet. Open it up… see those green things? those are dollars. Put them to work for you.

    Tom and Rob both surprised me BIG TIME this morning and I was SO PROUD!! Lucky 13 Too has always been an underdog. But guess what? We love each other. We support each other. We help each other build businesses. Not see who can surf the longest. And the hard work and sacrifices are paying off.

    I couldn’t be prouder of Lucky 13 Too!! πŸ˜€

  9. When crazy amount of XP is being delivered for use of money, this can easy turn into a one man show off ( not pointing out people – just a general statement) and not normal team activity. This has been a discussion so many times before and as always Timtech shoot quick back with its posts and says its equal for all, well I know that.
    But there will always be a bad atmosphere when money has TO big impact compared to other activity I guess.
    Maybe its time to reduce the crazy amount of XP for moneyspending?
    After all we do want high activity at CTP and all sites where badges / xp is implemented and so does the ones that bought badges.
    And how about making loyalty-badges worth the same as one dollar? like 1 million XP ?

  10. Robert Arnold says:


  11. Tim Hanson says:

    Stay classy San Diego.

  12. Sig says:

    I dont wanna take part..or I want to..but What team here at CTP Teams can come forward and tell, they never spend a cent on anything that had to do with XP?

    I have and I will Keep do it… A lot even, for others to get Xp when they do theyr hunting and surfing and promoting.

    No way any of the Top teams true the years hasnt spend Nothing… maybe i am wrong.. but I am not.. lol πŸ˜€

    • Sig says:

      This wasnt an attack on any of the people out there…

      I see this as business..so spend money one way others an other way to expand, brand and earn

      Other doesnt do that, others just to surf and stuff…

      Was just thinking some do this others does that.

      Good luck all..confusing…sorry now I cunfused myself too.. lol

  13. Bill Darton says:

    As Always, We Are… In To Win!

    ‘Nuff Said!

  14. Deborah Cook says:

    I am not going to comment on what is fair and what is not. I will however say this they way you speak to your customers sometimes is astounding. I have worked in Administration/Support for over 30 years. Every customer has the right to complain or ask a question – these days it is a lot more public than private because of the way we can communicate with each other. I would not have lasted five minutes in any of the jobs I have had if I spoken to customers the way you have in some of the posts above. If you can’t handle customers questions/complaints/criticism in a polite manner you shouldn’t be doing what you are doing.

    The saying the customer is always right – is of course incorrect – but sometimes you have to suck it up and explains things is much nicer manner.

  15. John Brewer says:

    Listen people. Jon has preached the same thing for years and years. He has also said that TimTech is not a company for “Care Bears.” If folks can’t take it, they should not dish it out (I’m referring to support and other comments).

    CTP teams is supposed to encourage people to network and spend TIME and MONEY on their businesses. Lucky 13 Too never ever complained about Phoenix being so far ahead of us. We just put our heads together and did what we could. As a result of that a few of us were encouraged to invest in our businesses. Win or loose we are all about networking and business building on our team.

    Folks need to quit pulling the “it’s not fair card” and play the game of life as best they can. At the end of the day we are supposed to be building our businesses. If we can have a little fun and friendly competition while we do it, then that is a plus.

    Will Donald Trump win the presidential election simply because he has money to burn? I don’t think so. He is doing darned well in the poles at the moment, but time will tell. Time will also tell if we are truly investing as much time and money as we can in our businesses and investing that time and money in the right way. Surfing is great, but is simply NOT ENOUGH!

    Go Lucky 13 Too!

    • Deborah Cook says:

      Well I am going to disagree John. The way you treat your customers should be your top priority. Being “YELLED” at as in the post above does not benefit anyone.

      If this was a retail situation I can guarantee there would not be many customers left in shop after that outburst from an owner/support staff.

      I, as a paying customer am very unamused about other customers/members being “YELLED” at on this blog. This is not not FUN or FRIENDLY at all.

      • John Brewer says:

        Hi Deborah,

        I respect how you feel and understand where you are coming from – from the brick and mortar business world, but Online Business is a totally different animal.

        Yes, we should be nice to our customers, and I must say that Timtech support has always been very nice to me, but people in this industry often have unrealistic expectations and therefor often have groundless complaints.

        Look at all the people in CTP. Look at all the people on CTP Teams. How many people would you say are on CTP Teams? Let’s give it a very small number of say 200. Now, with that number in mind, how many people come to TE Live, which is now Plus 1 daily (I wonder how many on CTP Teams even know that it is now called Plus 1 Daily)?. I have never seen the number reach higher than 40. Jon is always up front with everything. TimTech is a very transparent company – the most transparent I have ever seen online. TT jumps through all kinds of loops to get us marketers away from the excuses and on to the action.

        I have seen Jon apologize often online about a mistake he or TT may have made, or if he said something that was not correct. We all have the opportunity to express our dislikes live on air almost every weekday, but we also have to be ready to hear things that we may not like. That is simply the way it is.

        The problem is not TimTech, it’s US. TimTech can shut down CTP Teams today and still earn all kinds of money from their list and from their loyal customers.

        CTP Teams is a GAME! An outstanding game that encourages us to network and build our businesses, but it is still at the end of the day just a GAME! If people get this upset over some stupid game that they don’t even have to participate in anyway, how in the world are they going to handle being in business?

        In the brick and mortar world, if a company upsets me for whatever reason, they no longer get my business – period. Up till now I don’t know of too many people not getting their legitimated disputes with TT solved. I even remember a long time back when a customer was complaining at TE Live (and this was a TE Owner) about an issue. I piped in and told the customer they should calm down, but Jon and Patrick responded by saying that they had a legitimate complaint and that it would be addressed. That TE Owner is still a loyal TT customer to this day.

        People really need to smell the coffee for what it really is and not what they want it to be. If they think something is broken, then maybe they should try to fix it instead of just complaining.

        • Jon Olson says:

          Appreciate the comments guys, and thank you John for the very nice words…We aren’t perfect, that’s for sure, but we show up every day and care about everything we do and everyone we do business with.

          I’m not sure where there was anyone ‘yeling’ at anyone above.

          I questioned some of the claims of cheating by my employees above, and will not tolerate that kind of abuse towards them. I know how hard they work and I know how much abuse they take in their job every single day. You’d be blown away if you read some of the cruel things they get sent in support tickets.

          It’s very hard sometimes, I think, to get what you are trying to say across in text….That’s why we have been a big fan of video for years…When I TYPE LIKE THIS, I’m not yelling, I’m highlighting a point.

          At least that’s how I took things. It’s hard when we are behind computer screens…

          • So – how about making the loyalty badges more worth as you have already made the dollarspending more worth but done no changes to the worth of loyalties since they came? 1 million xp would produce more surfing and activity…guess you want that to Jon ?
            That way moneyspenders AND the big surfers will be more happy happy happy πŸ™‚ just a suggestion I know many would like

  16. Janelle says:

    I don’t want to fan the flames of controversy any more than
    they already have been, but anyone who knows me will know that I
    hold the needs of the customers I deal with very highly indeed.

    I want to help my customers the best I can and have them feeling
    happy and satisfied with the service they have received.

    That, however, does not mean that people can make unfounded, hurtful
    and totally untrue allegations about my colleagues and get away with
    it unchallenged. When my colleagues are being treated unfairly am I
    going to just sit back and do nothing? I don’t think so. If that ruffles
    a few feathers then so be it.

  17. Jessica McLurkin says:

    Hi everyone,

    I just want to make a small comment in regards to Deborah’s. I too worked in customer service when I was in college. I was a Team Lead for a MAJOR Cell Phone Company! Deborah is totally on the mark. We would not be in the building 5 minutes (( lol ))) if speaking to a customer in any other way than polite, and showing a willingness/concern for the customer’s complaint BE IT GROUNDLESS OR NOT !! The online marketing world is no different. I believe it’s the tone that is displayed when responding to a member here!! I didn’t feel anyone outright accused CTP of cheating!! I saw a lot of people not understand what is going on or how this contest was set up! I did think that List Viral was a major surprise inserted in the middle of this contest !! It was a true game changer and those that want to win… should play. If not say nothing !! Misunderstandings will occur! I wish all team members the best!! I am on the Team >> Surfaholics and trust me….. we do work hard and together as a team>> with lots of fun !!! No misunderstanding on that point !! All of you have a great day !! πŸ™‚

  18. Bill Darton says:

    I wasn’t going to bother commenting on this but, what the heck…

    When Janelle joined our team I did think that there would be a big advantage. I was excited and hopeful for the team.

    (I didn’t tell Janelle I was posting this so I hope she doesn’t mind what I am about to say.)

    The fact is, while Janelle has been a nice asset to the team, she has been no more advantageous than any other active member that any other team leader might recruit on any given day. As a matter of fact, there have even been times where I have (gently) called her out for not pulling her weight. And other times where she has apologized to the team without being called out.

    Like so many of us, Janelle has a regular day job as well as working for CTP. The only “advantage” is that we may get our support questions answered quicker – if she happens to be in our Skype room at the time.

    As a team leader, I have a modest XP subscription. I run promotions and when Janelle qualifies I still give her the XP even though she can have all the XP she wants. Integrity and fairness. It’s just the way we roll.

    What I really wanted to talk about here was this…

    Let’s turn this whole controversy upside down.

    As a side note… Personally, I am not a big fan of awarding massive XP for purchases. I feel that it devalues XP for those of us who actually purchase it. So…

    What if there was no way to make any purchases of XP (directly or indirectly) during contests, playoffs or special promotions?

    Then we would be complaining about the teams who a completely made up of retirees and full time marketers. Wouldn’t that be a tremendous disadvantage to people like me who work long hours as a truck driver?

    The conversation wouldn’t be any different. The fingers would just be pointing in a different direction.

    Some of us have all day too collect the 500K XP Bonus at Sweeva. And others of us do not have time and make up for it by investing. In the end, when you really think about it, it really is the only “fair” way to handle it.

  19. James Ong says:

    That’s a good start.

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